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#0   Av: jon1 » Redigera
2008-05-05 12:39:39
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bulligt värre  :-)

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2008-05-05 13:45:22
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skrattar mest som skrattar sist

tran m

nu är frågan om den orkar göra en dubbel topp eller lower high

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2008-05-05 14:57:13

orka...

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2008-05-05 16:46:29
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visar bilden igen , med text

och som alla vet så ligger detta index före alla andra

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2008-05-05 17:43:14

så ligger detta index före alla andra

håller helt med dig

den toppade förre dj förra året och den gjorde dubbeltopp förre 2000 bubblan

man kan invända att det har inte hänt 7-8 ggr så att man kan förvänta sig samma beteende

http://www.aktieguiden.com/docs/message/readthread.aspx?intMessageID=857710&groupID=624&mod=633018905252300000#9

ni får kolla själva

för trading den här veckan är det irrelevant, kanske nån månad likaså, fast tran är extremt överköpt-synd att det inte finns nån cfd att korta

my point är att tran skall tas i månadchart och där ser du vad som händer vid övre BB kontakt.

i all välmening

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2008-05-05 17:45:57

tran intraday- a great short case

http://www.aktieguiden.com/docs/message/readthread.aspx?intMessageID=967274&groupID=624&mod=633455720070570000#5

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2008-05-05 20:18:36

kolla IYT, etf tran fund. kanske en juni put

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2008-05-05 23:22:08

orka............

skriv att du e bear i stället , jag e bullllll...

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2008-05-20 10:13:46

dragspel , du verkar ju haj på det här med tran-index  , hur ser du på saken nu ?

 vi gick ju över den gamla toppen intraday , stängde vi över också ?

anser du nu att vi såg  en dubbeltopp ?

(vi vet ju redan att jag e bulle o du e bear , men det vore intressant o höra din kommentar)

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2008-05-20 10:33:06

tittar på tran i månadsperspektiv och jämför med 1999-2001

tran gjorde då dubbeltopp ett år innan dj

sen har jag långsiktsgraf på både tran och dj sen 29 som du hittar i min sträng kassakåp, både i metoo och i huvudforum

när tran toppade 2007 så började jag tjafsa om det, och antydde då att det kanske kommer en dubbeltopp, vilket nu sker. skulle scenariot upprepas så toppar dj nästa år-men allt behöver upprepas till pkt å pricka

sen har tran slagit i övre bollinger i månad

intraday så är tran i 60 på ofattbara 5.5 nivån i mitt fibbonacci regression kanal

 tran graf fr v19, hade fel, det är 30 min inte 60-då är det inte så hystesriskt som jag trodde

http://www.aktieguiden.com/docs/message/readthread.aspx?intMessageID=967274&groupID=624&mod=633457255893700000#11

index brukar lugna sej vid nivån 3.4-se nq och es-terminerna för n100 och sp500

så korta etf-en IYT eller köp puts-hllre korta, då kommer att envisas med bullsnacket in i rapperioden i juli kanske

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2008-05-20 10:59:49
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2008-05-20 11:46:40
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2008-05-20 17:46:31

#9 ok , tack , för svar

, jag tror nämligen inte vi ska jämföra med situationen 1999-2000 ,  sen tror jag faktiskt att den gamla toppen ryker på tran , så småningom , så hur mycket över förra toppen kan du tänka dig innan du inte vill kalla det för dubbeltopp ?

200 punkter ?

400 punkter ?

mer ?

o då menar jag close

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2008-05-20 17:54:22
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Vilken reversal fö tran

 

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2008-05-20 17:59:07

Kolla klippet fr CNBC när det kommer upp i morgon om Ni inte såg det nyss. 

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2008-05-20 18:12:03

Jag står fast vid den köpsignal på lång sikt som jag visade i #3

dvs när ma50 passerar ma200 underifrån , den är stark på lång sikt menar jag

och jag förväntar mig att de övriga indexen i usa följer efter  så småningom

dvs ma50 passerar ma200 underifrån

ma50 pekar ju redan uppåt för alla : dvs indu, spx, och compx

ev. ska vi i värsta fall ner till ma50 på dessa index för att sedan skjutas uppåt o bryta ma 200

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2008-05-20 23:00:55
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var å en har rätt till egna åsikter

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men

vissa mig en tillf då tran fortsätter genom övre BB

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2008-05-20 23:01:21
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tran 60,10,d 

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2008-05-21 13:10:57

oscar e en härlig kille :-) , I dag tar upp tran o dubbeltoppen

http://www.livewithoscar.com/

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2008-05-24 09:14:23

vem viker sej först? 

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2008-05-24 09:57:02
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2008-05-24 17:24:50

spx o dragspel ,

det va ju inte så att jag räknat med etablering över gamla toppen direkt , med den uppgång som varit , rekyl på tran e ju bara naturligt och tom bra för vidare uppgång

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2008-05-24 17:28:24

#20 bollinger my dear watson, bollinger 

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2008-05-30 22:06:07

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Dragspel , jag vet inte , men stängde  vi inte  över gamla toppen i dag ?

vad händer nu ?

det verkar ju inte vara en dubbeltopp

tran verkar vilja fortsatt upp

jag vet inte , men du kanske vet ?

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2008-05-30 22:08:56

kollar du i 10 minuter?

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2008-06-01 23:22:16

?Best time since the Vikings?, says chief
By Robert Wright, Transport Correspondent

Published: June 1 2008 20:23 | Last updated: June 1 2008 20:23

John Fredriksen leans back and lets a smile flit across his face as he is asked if, at the age of 64, he has considered retiring.

Charter rates for dry bulk ships - of which he is a major owner - have just hit all-time records. Some of his oil tankers are currently making $100,000 a day clear profit and his oil rigs are being leased out for $600,000 a day or more.

EDITOR?S CHOICE
Shipping sheds its mantle of secrecy - Jun-01Lex: Naval-gazing - May-19Iron and grain demand raises shipping costs - May-07Shipping rates near record levels - May-11Work starts on Felixstowe port expansion - May-10Investors reap fresh bounty from the sea - May-04"You cannot retire in a market like we experience today," he says, in the sing-song accent of his native Norway. "This is the best time since the Vikings."

The comment is typical of Mr Fredriksen, one of the chief beneficiaries of a shipping boom that has now lasted five years. An enthusiast for shipping, oil and equity markets of all kinds, he has been a particularly keen player of the spot market, where ships are chartered out on a voyage-by-voyage basis and rates fluctuate wildly.

He regularly buys and sells ships and companies. He has proved possibly the most successful bulk shipping entrepreneur of all time, holding stakes of between 29 and 80 per cent in a group of 10 quoted companies, with a total market capitalisation of about $22bn.

Estimates put his personal fortune at up to $11bn, leading to the inevitable comparison with Aristotle Onassis, the 20th century?s most famous shipping entrepreneur. However, while Onassis?s ships were held privately, Mr Fredriksen has spent the past decade founding, buying and investing in public companies.

Including reinvested dividends, he says ?1,000 invested in the July 1997 flotation of Frontline, his first listed company, would now be worth ?23,180.

Even Mr Fredriksen has been bewildered by the strength of the current boom. More than five years ago, he reduced his exposure to shipping after downturns in 1998 and 2002 persuaded him the recovery would be short-lived.

"We decided to take some money off the table because we had been down two times," Mr Fredriksen says.

"Of course, what we should have done is get in more tankers and bulkers and go on the spot market."

Mr Fredriksen started as a shipbroker in Oslo, where his father had been a shipyard welder. He bought his first ship - "a small dry cargo vessel, 1,400 tonnes" - in 1973. Then, while working as a trader in Singapore, in partnership with another Norwegian shipowner, he started regularly buying and selling vessels on his own account.

"I got the appetite for being a principal," he says. "I didn?t become a real owner before late 1979, the early 1980s. Then I really started to buy heavily."

During a market downturn in the 1980s, he was only able to find work for his tankers in the Gulf, during the 1980-88 Iran-Iraq war.

He has been accused of profiting from being the "Ayatollahs? lifeline" but says the only alternative would have been to lay up or scrap the ships.

"The times were extremely bad for all these years," Mr Fredriksen says.

"We didn?t make any money but we managed to keep the ships in the market."

A new low came in 1986, when Norwegian authorities jailed him for four months while investigating allegations that his vessels? masters had diverted crude oil from holds to use as fuel.

Mr Fredriksen was ignorant of any diversion, he insists, but agreed to a fine to end the "horror story".

"I settled with them because the case was killing me," he says.

He finally considered quitting the tanker market altogether in 1996 after the Sea Empress, one of his tankers, spilt 70,000 tonnes of oil into the sea off Wales.

"My hair turned white," says Mr Fredriksen. "I started smoking again."

But instead of quitting, he started to buy undervalued quoted tanker operators to get round the problems of raising bank finance in then-difficult market conditions. He merged several with Frontline, his first acquisition.

Frontline, in which Mr Fredriksen holds 35 per cent, now owns 80 ships, either existing or under construction. Golar LNG, in which he holds 47 per cent, is the world?s largest owner of liquefied natural gas carriers.

Golden Ocean, in which he holds 40 per cent, owns 33 dry bulk carriers and operates several under charter from other owners.

Demand for the oil exploration rigs of Seadrill, in which he owns 34 per cent, is such that the company, floated with a $200m market capitalisation in 2005, is now worth more than $10bn.

Tor Olav Trøim, Mr Fredriksen?s closest aide, says that the companies? success stems from a willingness to let all shareholders share the returns. Other shipping companies, he says, are run more in the interests of their founders.

"John has been good at saying, ?If I?m going to be public, I?m going to share with others; if I?m going to make money, everybody should?," he says.

Yet Mr Fredriksen?s real achievement may have been to adapt his style. Many of the public companies? vessels are on long-term charters, increasing the predictability of earnings but reducing super-profits in spot market spikes.

He sounds wistful about the lost opportunity to play the market.

"If I had been private - probably on the tanker side - I would have had everything on the spot market," Mr Fredriksen says.

"It?s what we used to do. But we?ve been trying to protect the downside for the shareholders."

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" Investors should remember that excitement and expenses are their enemies. And if they insist on trying to time their participation in equities, they should try to be fearful when others are greedy and greedy when others are fearful." Warren Buffet

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